El Asian wrote:Even though I have no problem with Cade, he wasn't a guy I never recalled people had hopes or expected to see in PWG, I would expect Jason Kincaid to get booked by PWG before Jason Cade but as much as I don't mind Callihan and his crew getting booked, I do see the issue and wouldn't mind an entire year without them being booked with the exceptions of Xavier and maybe Strickland can still around still but as for Cade, he's okay but at this point, I feel PWG should have given Cade's spot in PWG to local guys like Eli Everfly, Adrian Quest, Andy Brown, or Brody King instead.
LBOinyamouf4sho wrote:El Asian wrote:Even though I have no problem with Cade, he wasn't a guy I never recalled people had hopes or expected to see in PWG, I would expect Jason Kincaid to get booked by PWG before Jason Cade but as much as I don't mind Callihan and his crew getting booked, I do see the issue and wouldn't mind an entire year without them being booked with the exceptions of Xavier and maybe Strickland can still around still but as for Cade, he's okay but at this point, I feel PWG should have given Cade's spot in PWG to local guys like Eli Everfly, Adrian Quest, Andy Brown, or Brody King instead.
as much as i agree with that, i've come to accept it's not something that's going to happen. which is a shame because i think PWG could make stars and it would be a fun thing to see again but that's just not their deal these days.
anyways i'm sure ASW won't disappoint and hopefully they have some nice surprises.
eastbay510 wrote:Why don't these locals leave California and try to get booked in other places and wrestle the best talent in the states or abroad? Almost everybody who is sucessful in wrestling are people who travel. I don't get it man.
eastbay510 wrote:There is a SoCal local named Dickey Mayer who is working in Kaientai Dojo in Japan and the UK in October. Is he the best California local? No clue, but he is making the effort the other California locals won't/don't. He is definitely someone I have my eye on.
SoCalAndy wrote:
Right now SoCal is rebuilding itself after it was being destroyed by the NWA and Adam Pearce 12 years ago.
SoCalAndy wrote:
Again, I believe the SoCal scene is better. This current crop of SoCal talent aren’t like Bino Gambino or Malachi Jackson.
SoCalAndy wrote: Ryan Taylor is a tremendous talent who has gotten a lot better. Aside from needing more personality, he is as good as Zack Sabre, Jr.. and worlds better than Mark Haskins and Marty Scurll. I stopped watching wrestling when Famous B was in PWG, but he was young in his career when he was there. To judge him on that is unfair.
Again, I believe the SoCal scene is better. This current crop of SoCal talent aren’t like Bino Gambino or Malachi Jackson. Guys like Eli Everfly, Adrian Quest, Brody King, Jake Atlas, True Grit of Jesse James and Hoss Hogg, Ray Rosas, Tito Escondido, Andy Brown, Mike Camden, and Douglas James (who is under contract to PCW for a few months) are juts a few guys who would do well in PWG. In a year or two,Lucas Riley and Matt Vandergriff (who has had two matches so far) are showing tons of potential to be stars. So yeah, try not to judge the SoCal scene based on limited knowledge. There's great shit being built here. I implore everyone to seek out SoCal stuff.
Okay I'm done here now.
SoCalAndy wrote:You can like/hype whoever and whatever you want. That’s your shit, not mine. Fact is what you like isn’t as great as your think, but again you like what you like. Progress can draw huge crowds, but that me it doesn’t mean shit. The Big Bang Theory is a terrible show but gets more viewers than a great show like Rick and Morty, which gets way less viewers. In SoCal, PCW outdraws PWG but they’re not putting on better shows. As far as these guys you talk up working bigger names doesn’t mean much either. There are plenty of terrible workers in this world who work top talent because someone is willing to pay their booking fees. Having the best matches is a subjective thing, but the best PWG matches I’ve seen lately were by the Bucks, Cobb, Chuck Taylor, Lucha guys, and Ricochet. I really don’t care to go on about this debate about what you personally like. If you enjoy that shit, more power to you. I don’t buy into the hype everyone gives the European and Australian scene. Just don't be ignorant.
As far as SoCal, which is why I’m here, this area has its issues. From promoters not doing enough to get notoriety for their workers, shitty workers getting hyped up by their friends, entitled people in the business, and an anti-PWG sentiment that exists in the minds of a few in the scene. Right now SoCal is rebuilding itself after it was being destroyed by the NWA and Adam Pearce 12 years ago. I’ll be the first to say that this scene produced garbage after Rev Pro closed in 2004. There is no harsher critic of the SoCal scene than me, but now it is turning around and booming with so many prospects.
Andrew Yuma (who supposedly asked to stop being booked on PWG according to some people I’ve talked to) and Bob Winwood are bitter and whiny bitches. They always have been. They don’t represent the scene though. They don’t speak for the workers. They don’t speak for anyone but themselves and a few of their buddies. Also, Ryan Taylor is a tremendous talent who has gotten a lot better. Aside from needing more personality, he is as good as Zack Sabre, Jr.. and worlds better than Mark Haskins and Marty Scurll. I stopped watching wrestling when Famous B was in PWG, but he was young in his career when he was there. To judge him on that is unfair.
Again, I believe the SoCal scene is better. This current crop of SoCal talent aren’t like Bino Gambino or Malachi Jackson. Guys like Eli Everfly, Adrian Quest, Brody King, Jake Atlas, True Grit of Jesse James and Hoss Hogg, Ray Rosas, Tito Escondido, Andy Brown, Mike Camden, and Douglas James (who is under contract to PCW for a few months) are juts a few guys who would do well in PWG. In a year or two,Lucas Riley and Matt Vandergriff (who has had two matches so far) are showing tons of potential to be stars. So yeah, try not to judge the SoCal scene based on limited knowledge. There's great shit being built here. I implore everyone to seek out SoCal stuff.
Okay I'm done here now.
El Asian wrote:So unless this is an error going on, night 1 tickets are still available for GA and standing room instead of the usual selling out in 1 minute like any other show would. Personally, even though night 1 looks fine on paper and all but I feel it is the weakest of the 2 and the fact its not even selling out right now might be proof of that.
Personally, I think night 1 definitely needs to be rearranged or changed up a bit, like if Penta El 0M is available on October 20, I would definitely have the Lucha Brothers defend the tag titles against Chozen Bros as the headline match for night 1 especially night 1 needs a title defense on that card while Jonah Rock and Keith Lee would face off instead while I guess you can turn the 4 way match into a 3 way or replace Rey Fenix with either Eli Everfly, Laredo Kid, Mr. 450, Drastik Boy, Daga, Jack Evans, or Dezmond Xavier or maybe just book all of them with Guevara, Flamita, and Horus into a 10 man tag match after intermission
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